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How a program for migrant children is being used to carry out immigration arrests

Here & Now Anytime

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4.1954 Ratings

🗓️ 16 May 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

New reporting from ProPublica finds the Trump administration is subtly changing the mission of a government agency tasked with helping migrants and protecting kids who cross the border alone. We hear from investigative reporter Lomi Kriel. Then, Author Anthony Horowitz is out with a new book that takes jabs at mystery novels, while still being a great mystery read. He talks about "Marble Hall Murders." And, Holly Laessig and Jess Wolfe, who front the band Lucius, join us. They're currently on tour behind their new self-titled album, which came out May 2.

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0:00.0

Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design.

0:09.2

MathWorks, accelerating the pace of discovery in engineering and science. Learn more at MathWorks.com.

0:17.4

WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:22.6

Current and former staffers of an agency tasked with protecting kids who cross the border alone

0:27.9

say the Office of Refugee Resettlement has effectively become an extension of ICE.

0:33.5

The Trump administration is sharing this information in unprecedented ways and in their view solely to deport more kids and parents.

0:43.9

It's Friday, May 16th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:48.8

I'm Chris Bentley.

1:05.7

Thank you. Today on the show, Anthony Horowitz's bio boasts he's committed more murders on the page than any other writer.

1:11.8

His latest book is Marble Hall Murders, part of a trilogy of murder mysteries about an editor of murder mysteries. The book harkens back to the golden age of crime novels, even though

1:17.3

they're set in the present. A cell phone or an internet search makes everything so instant,

1:22.1

so immediate, whereas I think a murder mystery is something to enjoy at leisure. Also,

1:26.5

the band Roush had already put out several great records before now,

1:34.6

so why is this latest one self-titled?

1:40.6

This record really felt like a coming home to the band

1:43.8

after so much collaboration and so much exploration.

1:48.8

Catching up with Lucius on tour coming up in about 20 minutes.

1:56.5

But first, ever since President Trump returned to the White House, he's been overhauling the U.S.

2:02.2

immigration system.

2:03.5

He's suspended refugee resettlement programs, cracked down on people crossing the border illegally,

2:09.2

and now new reporting from ProPublica finds his administration also appears to be subtly changing

2:14.3

the mission of a government agency that's tasked with helping migrants and protecting

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