This is the Potter's Cast.

A podcast home for potters everywhere.

It's a community of potters dedicated to grow their business.

We're picking up where the art degree ends.

I'm your host, Paul Blaze.

Well, good night.

If it isn't, episode number 564.

Welcome to the Potter's cast.

So happy that we're hanging out together today. Now, I wanted to take a moment and tell you about a couple of things that are coming up. First off, don't forget that the new book by Forrest Middleton is out, and I'm excited about that book because it's amazing and I think that'd be a good book to have

in your hands. But also, I wanted to remind you that coming up in just a couple of weeks is going

to be an event at Georgies. And that event is the Georgie's Open House and we're going to be doing

some live interviews there,

but also I'll be presenting a class or a workshop on how to use social media for your

personal benefit and growth. And so if you're interested in that stuff, then this would be the event to go to.

It's going to be on the 19th of October, and it's going to be at Georgies here in Portland.

So if you're like in a, you know, a hundred mile circle or radius, then come and check it out.

I'd love to be able to give you half a hug and hang with you.

Now, for today's episode, we're going to kind of get a bit real here today because this is an

episode that talks about how to deal with pain and how to recover from that. And there's some great

life lessons in this conversation. And the reality is about dealing with this stuff. Like you said,

well, wait a minute, Paul, this is supposed to be a bit of a business podcast. Well, yeah,

yeah, the business of life sometimes. And Michael Hall, our guest today, really gets into it and

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