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Kelly Corrigan Wonders

How a Person Becomes a Therapist

Kelly Corrigan Wonders

Kelly Corrigan Show

Society & Culture

4.93.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2023

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

With the demand for excellent mental health care at its all-time peak, it’s a good thing people like Tracy Defina dared to go back to school — for many years — to get a PhD in counseling. This is the story of how she pulled off this enormous achievement in the middle of life already teeming with to-dos. My conversation with Tracy is the first of a 4-part series called How’d You Do That? With women who made radical changes to their lives well after most of their peers had settled into a given way of life. (Replay) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:30.3

What started to happen was an awareness of what I started calling a hunger.

0:41.0

And again, like the shame thing, like, are you serious?

0:42.1

You're bored?

0:47.1

There was a part of me that was bored and unfulfilled.

0:53.7

Welcome to Kelly Corrigan wonders.

1:12.2

I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today I'm kicking off a new four-part series called How'd You Do That? Featuring four women who radically changed their lives and created something new and important with almost no experience or backing. First up is my great friend since college, Tracy DeFina.

1:17.5

We'll talk about her evolution from beleaguered mother of three to a Ph.D.

1:22.2

in counseling and family therapy with a thriving practice she loves.

1:23.4

So join us.

1:25.6

We'll be right back with Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

1:39.8

Welcome back to Kelly Corrigan Wonders.

1:44.5

I'm Kelly Corrigan, and today begins this series we're calling How'd You Do That?

2:03.1

We sat down with four different women who pulled off pretty massive life changes, like a survivor of the war in Kosovo, who, over eight years, helped make the film that became Kosovo's official Oscar nomination, or a small business owner who started out as a receptionist and eventually bought out her boss, or a woman who, after her 19-year-old daughter, died in the 2010

2:10.2

earthquake in Haiti, built an orphanage there that is still up and running and taking very good

2:16.5

care of a lot of kids 12 years later.

2:19.9

And today's guest, a newly minted PhD named Tracy Daphina, who faced her fears and went

2:25.4

back to school in midlife and now has a gratifying practice as a therapist.

2:30.9

I was interested in doing a series like this because there is just so much crushing negativity

2:35.9

in the news, so much dysfunction and despair that I felt like we needed some kind of

2:42.3

counter programming. So each of these four women has found a great sense of purpose, a way to

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