Remember the year 2011?

Yeah, it's a bit of a blur for me too.

But 10 years ago, this podcast had just started to promote a new book by Dave Ramsey.

That book, you guessed it, Entrez Leadership.

From the Ramsey Network, this is the Entrez Leadership podcast,

where we help business leaders grow themselves, their teams, and their profits.

I'm your host, George Kamel, and today's episode is going to be a little bit different.

We're celebrating the 10th anniversary of the book Entrez Leadership.

So our first guest today is the author himself, Dave Ramsey.

He's the CEO of Ramsey Solutions and a seven-time number one national best-selling author,

one of those being Entrez Leadership.

He's also a personal finance expert and host of the Ramsey Show.

In our conversation, you'll hear about the genesis of Entrez Leadership,

which didn't start as a book idea, but instead was born out of necessity.

We'll also talk about the impact that these principles have had on leaders like you,

and what Dave has learned in the decades since the book released.

Our second guest today is the CEO of Texas Gates, Stephen Capps.

He's been a business owner since 2003, and has overcome unbelievable adversity,

both personally and professionally.

He'll share his story of being on the brink of bankruptcy to now running a seven-figure debt-free business,

thanks in part to the Entrez Leadership Principles intersecting his life.

At first, my conversation with Dave Ramsey.

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