This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Schmitzibasu. Today, what a Harris or a Trump

win would mean for America. We are days away from election day, and the two competing visions for the country

from the presidential candidates couldn't be more different.

We're running against something far bigger than Joe or Kamala and far more powerful than

them which is a massive vicious crooked radical left machine that runs today's Democrat party.

That's former President Donald Trump at his rally at Madison Square Garden last weekend.

They are indeed the enemy from within, but this is who we're fighting.

Meanwhile, Vice President Kamala Harris delivered her closing argument to voters this week at the

ellipse in Washington, D.C.

And this election is more than just a choice between two parties and two different candidates.

It is a choice about whether we have a country rooted in freedom for every American or ruled by chaos and division.

She spoke from the same place where Trump held his rally on January 6th,

before a violent mob of his supporters stormed the Capitol building. America, this is not a candidate for president who is thinking about how to make your life better.

This is someone who is unstable, obsessed with revenge, consumed with grievance, and out for

unchecked power.

With just days to go, I wanted to sit down with politics reporters Peter Baker and Susan Glasser.

They're sometimes collaborators and always married.

Peter is the chief White House correspondent for the New York

Times and Susan is a staff writer at the New Yorker. The last time I spoke with them

was almost exactly two years ago about their book The Divider, an extensive history of the Trump presidency

that relied on lots of sources inside and close to the Trump White House.

I asked them to come back on now to take stock of the moment we're in.

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