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All Out in the Open

How a Gay Brit Learned to "Come As You Are" (with James Grant)

All Out in the Open

All Out in the Open, Questions from the Closet

Latter-day Saint, Christ, Society & Culture, Mormon, Gay, Religion & Spirituality, Faith, Lgbtq, Transgender, Church Of Jesus Christ, Christianity, Lgbt, Lds

51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

On this week’s OUT and About episode, Iese Wilson talks with James Grant, a gay, neurodivergent Latter-day Saint from England currently serving on his stake high council. James shares his journey of coming out after years of denial and the role community and connection played in that process. A former missionary leader introduced James to the Questions from the Closet podcast and Gather Conference, which he later attended with his mom and had a deeply spiritual experience. He found hope and ...

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0:00.0

Hey, y'all, Charlie and Ben here, and we really want to meet you in person.

0:04.1

And you have the opportunity to do that on Friday, June 27th in Provo, Utah at the Utah Valley Convention Center. We're hosting a podcast live event as part of the Gather Conference. This part of the conference is free, and we're going to be taking questions. We've got a few special guests, and it's going to be a hoot and a half. We really hope you're there. and also totally consider coming to the gather conference itself.

0:03.3

It's going to be a hoot and a half we really hope you're there and also

0:20.9

totally consider coming to the gather conference itself it's going to be an amazing lineup and the last

0:25.9

two years has been so transformative for so many people yeah you can register at gather dash

0:30.4

conference dot com see you soon Hello and welcome back to All Out in the Open. This week we have another out and about

0:45.7

episode and these are so fun because our co-host, YSA. Wilson, takes us on this global tour of the

0:50.8

LGBTQ experience, what it's like to be gay in the church.

1:18.0

And today, Yes, he takes us to England to visit with his friend James. I love this episode. I loved his experiences. And I think you'll enjoy it. And Ben also loves the south of England. He's been talking about it very emphatically. Brighton is beautiful. And that's where James lives now. Everyone should go. It's amazing. We hope you love the episode. Hi, everybody, Welcome to Out and About, where we're going to go on a journey around the world to hear the different stories of members of the church.

1:22.8

Today, we are crossing the pond for the very first plan.

1:31.0

We've been doing a lot of time in the Pacific, but we're just going to cross the other ocean now and take our first journey over into Euro.

1:31.9

Today we're going to be meeting with my friend James Grant, who is coming to us from England.

1:38.6

So since most of our audience is American, we might need some help with that geography so

1:44.8

why don't i turn the time over there jade run you toss a little bit about yourself and where you're at

1:50.2

so i'm totally in england sunny england it was actually sunny for once today actually i'm not

1:54.7

lying um so i'm in i'm i'm originally from the north of eng England in a place called Yorkshire, which is the most

2:03.0

beautiful place in the world. And I now live in the south of England, sadly. For those who don't know,

2:08.1

there's a big divide in England between the north and the south, and we don't like each other.

2:13.2

But I digress. But yeah, so I'm totally in England. And yeah.

2:18.8

Yes, we, you have an understanding of the north and south without getting along.

2:22.9

We had a period of South about that.

2:25.9

Many films have been made.

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