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🗓️ 9 December 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, it's Darien Woods here. Just quickly before we start the show, I want to take a minute to talk about public media. |
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| 1:10.3 | Thank you. NPR. This is the indicator from planet money. I'm Darym Woods. And I'm Stephen Mesaaha. |
| 1:22.5 | Because of the recent government shutdown, a lot of economic indicators have been delayed or even cancelled. |
| 1:28.6 | That is troubling for decision makers. The chair of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, |
| 1:33.1 | recently put it like this. If you're driving in the fog, you slow down. And so if the central |
| 1:38.2 | bank is a car slowly driving in the fog? Well, this week it's hit a T intersection. The Federal Reserve is meeting today |
| 1:46.6 | and tomorrow to decide what to do. On one side is the way of high interest rates. You might call this |
| 1:53.8 | Hawks Highway, a steeper incline of higher borrowing costs that will try to finally vanquish inflation. |
| 2:01.4 | But the other direction is Doves Drive. |
| 2:04.5 | That's a gentle downward slope promising lower interest rates |
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