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The Brian Lehrer Show

How 2020 Changed Us

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Eric Klinenberg, professor in the social sciences and director of the Institute for Public Knowledge at New York University and the author of 2020: One City, Seven People, and the Year Everything Changed (Knopf, 2024), tells the story of New York in 2020 through the lens of seven New Yorkers, and talks about the ongoing effect of that traumatic year.

→ Eric Klinenberg will talk about the book "2020: One City, Seven People, and the Year Everything Changed" with Columbia history professor Kim Phillips-Fein on Monday, March 4th at 6:30pm at the Stavros Niarchos Foundation Library on 5th Avenue at 40th Street.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Lera Show on WNYC.

0:12.9

Good morning again everyone.

0:14.4

Is it possible that we're learning some of the wrong lessons

0:17.4

about American culture from the pandemic?

0:20.5

In a New York Times op-ed,

0:22.1

NYU sociologist Eric Kleinenberg writes that people tend to talk about an epidemic of loneliness that the pandemic spawned.

0:30.0

Kleinenberg says, it's really a loss of trust we should be talking about.

0:35.8

That theory is part of a new book by Kleinenberg called 2020.

0:40.0

One city, seven people, and the year everything changed. The city is New York. We'll hear

0:46.0

about some of the seven people and talk about what changed that we should still be

0:50.6

talking about in 2024, trust and other things. Yes, 2020, the year that

0:56.5

brought an economic crash precipitated by COVID-19. 2020, the year George Floyd was murdered by a police officer

1:04.3

20 the year that President Biden first went head-to-head with Donald Trump.

1:09.4

Eric Kleinenberg is also director of the Institute for Public Knowledge at NYU and again the book title is

1:16.0

20-20, one city, seven people, and the year everything changed.

1:21.4

Eric, thanks for coming on.

1:22.6

Welcome back to WNYC.

1:24.1

Thank you.

1:24.4

It's nice to be here.

1:25.7

And I want to start, even though this is so personal,

1:28.6

obviously, to so many people who are in grief and everything else since 2020. Still I want to start

1:37.1

on kind of an abstraction I guess with your theory of crisis and what we can learn

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