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From what I've seen, I get the impression more and more that the actual aim of deniability is not to stage an attack that cannot be traced back, but just saw enough confusion to achieve different names. Like, You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front

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Here are your hosts. Hello, welcome to War College. I am your host Matthew Gal. On September 14th,

explosions rocked oil infrastructure in Saudi Arabia.

Huti rebels in Yemen claimed responsibility for the attack and the early headlines stated that the

rebel group had attacked the kingdom with drones.

As always, the truth is more complicated.

It's a story of cruise missiles, Iran, and open source intelligence, and it's also a story where

how we know what we know is just as interesting as the story itself.

With us today to help untangle all of this is Fabian Hens.

Hens is a research associate at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey, California.

He is also the author of an excellent post at Arms Control Wunk that really breaks down what we know about

what happened and what weapons were used.

We're going to get into some of that now.

Sir, thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much for an opportunity to be here.

All right, so let's get the basics out of the way.

It's been two weeks since the attack.

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