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The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Housing policy: Who Does It Best? - Part 2

The Europeans | European news, politics and culture

Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer

Society & Culture, News

4.8274 Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Katz goes back to the drawing board. If the housing crisis is really about wealth inequality, doesn’t the policy we need to fix it… need to address wealth inequality? We go in deep, and what Katz finds makes us wonder: are we even having the right conversation when it comes to the housing crisis?    If you're curious about where you stand on your country's wealth ladder, you can find the World Bank’s calculator here, which adjusts for things like home ownership.    The intergenerational wealth audit that Molly co-authored, you can find here.   You can find one of the OECD’s reports on housing tax in Europe here.   You can find Cody’s book on housing shame here.   Interested in hearing more radio that looks at how politics gets into our intimate lives? Journalist Anna Sale’s book and podcast “about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more” have been a huge inspiration.   If you want to know your renters' rights, many countries have renters' unions that give (legal) advice. Here's the Dutch one: Woonbond.   And most importantly, this series was fully funded by you - our listeners! Our generous crowdfunders hit our goal within two months, and made it possible for us to do extensive reporting fully independently. We couldn’t be more grateful. If you’re feeling inspired to support our ongoing work, please go to patreon.com/europeanspodcast. You can donate as little as 3 euros, less than an overpriced cappuccino! But you can also donate plenty more ;)   Want to support us in another way? Please consider telling one or two friends specifically about this episode, and sharing it with them. It is the most effective way for us to reach people! Written, reported and produced by: Katz Laszlo Editors: Jasmin Baoumy, Katy Lee Editorial support: Dominic Kraemer, Morgan Childs, Uršula Zaletelj, Maja Stepančič Sound design: Jesse Lou Lawson Mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music and SFX: Epidemic & FreeSound.Org Artwork: RTiiiKA Special thanks to: Vera Vrijmoeth, Georgia Walker, Cody Hochstenbach, Molly Broome, Juha Kahila, Ton Heijdra, Marie-Jeanne Dumont, Museum Het Schip, Woonbond, and the many more friends and strangers who talked to us about housing and money.   YouTube | Bluesky | Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | Mastodon⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | [email protected]

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0:00.0

This episode of the Europeans exists thanks to you, our amazing listeners.

0:06.4

Every bit of it was funded by your support.

0:09.1

Thank you all so, so much.

0:11.1

If you aren't donating yet, please consider supporting our independent journalism

0:15.4

by heading to patreon.com forward slash Europeans podcast.

0:50.7

Thank you. Patreon.com forward slash Europeans Podcast. Hello, listeners, and welcome to part two of who does it best housing policy.

0:56.4

In this series, we are digging for the policies around Europe that are actually making our lives better. In Housing Part 1, Katz took us on an adventure across Europe and showed us

1:03.0

some good examples of housing policy in Vienna, Finland and Paris. And we also learned about

1:10.0

the inheritocracy and this massive wealth inequality that is

1:15.0

driving the housing crisis that is rampant across Europe.

1:20.1

In part two, Katz has promised to flip the way we think about housing policy on its head.

1:27.5

Yes, that is the plan.

1:29.4

In part two, we're going a bit off-piece.

1:33.8

So first of all, let me start with some myth-busting.

1:37.6

You know what doesn't make enough of a difference when it comes to housing affordability?

1:42.4

What?

1:43.2

A lot of the big problems and solutions

1:45.0

we hear about the most. It's a bit like plastic straws. So what are the first things you think

1:50.6

about when you think about the housing crisis? Well, here in the Netherlands, people talk a lot

1:55.3

about asylum seekers and housing. Right. Even though there is endless research proving that asylum seekers do not drive this housing

2:03.6

crisis, if anything, they're often the hardest hit by it.

2:07.6

There is a ton of research about discrimination on the housing market based on race, religion,

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