Hi, everybody. Welcome to another episode of Altacall. Today, it's going to be a non-Mapst episode. We're going to focus on Bravo.

And my guest today is the lady with the best collection of memes on hand anytime you need one.

And it's Raven from Bitch is Better podcast. Hi, Raven. Hi. Oh my God. Thank you. Not the best memes. I appreciate that. And I'm so excited to be here and that we're like finally getting to chat.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Like you make me feel seen. Like I say it all the time. Anyone who is a reality person, like, first of all, that's it. But then when you get angry, when you're annoyed by something, I was like, okay, I thought I was a hater, but I feel seen. Everyone's just annoying. It's not me. Uh-huh. And I mean, same to you. Whenever I do that, I'm like, I know that I can get annoyed easily with like everything. So to have you like a level-headed person in my DM's like, no, that is annoying. I'm like, okay, perfect. I'm not tripping. We don't agree on everything. Like when I confess that I'm a Craig apologist.

Yes.

Raven's like, what? I'm like, are you okay?

I am. I give grace every now and then. Okay. So we are going to talk all things. A lot has been happening on Bravo. And we're going to

talk about the franchises and all the things that happened. And where do you stand on the Bravoverse,

or should I say specifically the housewives franchise as a whole in general? Where do you

stand on that?

Okay. I'm feeling a little, I was just having this talk with my mom. I don't know.

There can be good episodes here and there, but like overall, I feel like we're losing it a little bit. And I don't know. I mean, the shows

housewives have been on for what, like 20 years at this point. And so more often you're finding

these women who are coming on to the show and they are doing what they think a housewife should do.

And they're like acting like how they think they should act should do. And they're like acting, like how,

how they think they should act instead of just being themselves and like letting us watch that.

And because we've been watching these shows for so long, we can clock it. You know,

and it's like, can you cut it out? So that's kind of off putting. I mean, I'm never going to really stop watching because I can't, I've been watching since I was in high school. So like I'm never going to stop. But it's tough. It's tough sometimes. So yeah. I agree with you. I've been saying this the whole while. I'm not one of the people who's so upset about the New York reboot. I'm just like, it's fine because I think that's what we need to do across all the franchises. We need to build the relationships from scratch because part of why we love them is like we've seen these people get divorced. We've seen their kids grow up, get married. And it's time to build that relationship because these people are going to, for lack of a better word, age out.

Yeah.

And also, we know too much now that nothing really is going to be fresh.

So I don't judge them like, oh, you need to bring this, you need to do.

We've seen everything, guys.

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