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16s of five pounds. So welcome to the RHS Gardening Podcast Houseplant Special.

My name's Matthew Potage and I'm the curator of RHS Garden Wisley

and I absolutely love houseplants.

I think I've mentioned them a few times on here before.

And for a very, very special one-off episode, I'm joined by,

I want to call them the queens

of houseplants. So Anne Swithenbaum from Gardner's Question Time and Jane Peron from On the

ledge. And we're going to have a bit of a geek out talking about house plants. So yeah,

this is the first of its kind. I'm going to call it a podcast swap. Jane, over to you first.

Can you explain to us about On the Ledge and how that's going to merge with the RHS podcast today?

Well, it's a wonderful opportunity to have our listeners listen to another podcast. And my podcast is a weekly podcast about house plants that I've been making since February 2017.

And it's basically just my excuse to talk about house plants that I've been making since February 2017. And it's basically just my excuse to talk about house plants because nobody else in my family's interested in hearing

talk to somebody. So I just decided to start a podcast to provide an outlet for my conversations.

And also just as a way of being able to email somebody and say,

do you want to have a chat with me about Gisneria ads and actually have a reason to do it,

which is putting it out on the podcast. So it's just a personal passion that's turned into a bit

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