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Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

House Rich?

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk

Don McDonald

Investing, Education, Business, How To

4.5 • 810 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Retirement income doesn’t have to mean hoarding assets or obsessing over leaving an inheritance. In this episode of Talking Real Money, Don and Tom dig into a topic that still makes many investors flinch: reverse mortgages. Using recent research and real-world planning logic, they walk through why modern reverse mortgages aren’t the shady last-ditch option they once were, how they can reduce cash-flow stress, and when they may (or may not) make sense as part of a broader retirement plan. Along the way, they tackle myths about heirs losing the house, unpack the true costs, and explain why being “house rich and cash poor” is a real planning problem. The show also answers listener questions on bond ladders using iShares iBonds ETFs, critiques Vanguard’s newer fixed-income ETF BNDF, and closes with a reminder that yield chasing — even from respected firms — still carries risk. 0:04 Retirement isn’t about dying rich — it’s about spending your money on you 0:25 Why inheritance shouldn’t be the primary goal (with one important exception) 1:21 Shirt colors, corporate culture, and the last people still wearing white dress shirts 2:48 Smoking everywhere: airplanes, hospitals, grocery stores — and why it mattered financially 4:12 Disney jokes, expensive vacations, and setting the tone 5:08 Introducing the real topic: reverse mortgages 5:15 Why reverse mortgages still scare people — and why that reputation exists 6:44 How FHA regulation changed the reverse-mortgage landscape 7:21 Are reverse mortgages really a “last resort”? 8:14 Using home equity to improve lifestyle, not just survive retirement 8:52 Are reverse mortgages expensive? Breaking down the real costs 10:53 Lending limits, age factors, and how much equity you can actually access 12:39 When the upfront costs make sense — and when they don’t 14:35 Myth busted: heirs can still inherit the home 15:08 You still own your house — it’s just a mortgage with no monthly payment 16:18 Reverse mortgages as liquidity, not a wealth-building tool 16:33 The importance of planning before touching home equity 16:45 $35 trillion locked in U.S. home equity — and why paying off mortgages isn’t always smart 17:57 Downsizing versus staying put: another option entirely 19:59 Listener question: simplifying a complex bond ladder 21:17 Using iShares iBonds ETFs to build a disciplined bond ladder 22:32 The risk of breaking the ladder when rates change 23:41 Listener question: Vanguard’s BNDF ETF 24:44 Why chasing yield in bond funds can backfire 26:06 Gimmicks, relevance, and Vanguard’s shift away from leadership 26:33 RetireMeet 2026 preview and registration details Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:38.0

We're talking real money.

0:40.3

We talk a lot on talking real money about getting to retirement and how you generate the

0:45.3

income you need in retirement to enjoy your life.

0:48.2

And we are big believers in spending your money for you.

0:57.5

You worked hard for it. You should use it for you.

1:04.1

If you have some left over, you leave it to the kids or charity, that's awesome. But that should not be your primary goal unless, and of course I have to throw this in for the not serious,

1:08.7

for the people who are too serious in our audience,

1:14.8

unless you have a special needs person in your life for whom you have, you should have established a trust and take care of.

1:16.7

But otherwise, your kids, your adult kids who are working and living independent lives do not need an inheritance and don't need your estate or your house.

1:29.5

And there's a reason why I mention house.

1:32.5

That's going to be the topic of today's episode of Talking Real Money.

1:37.3

Hello.

1:38.4

I am Don McDonald, one of your two hosts, right there in the brown shirt, Tom Cock, the other host.

1:48.6

And welcome to the program.

1:51.7

Is that welcome to me?

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