My name is Joshua Topolsky and I have a new podcast called What Future.

But I want to tell you that I'm being forced by my producer to record a promo telling you about my show.

And I'm not trying to force you to listen to it.

And maybe you're not interested in internet culture and the future of life on planet Earth.

And why John Carpenter movies are so good.

You may just want to listen to a podcast about, I don't know, sports or whatever Joe Rogan talks about.

And that's fine, you know, no judgment.

But if you like what you're hearing and I know that you do, you can listen to all of what future on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

To me, it may be have something to do with that one little girl, but to me there's a bigger reason you get to tell me that they walk in and kill eight people over one child.

It's just so bizarre that there's so many twists and turns.

It's mind boggling and it's like a puzzle trying to put the pieces together.

It's just got so many tentacles and ghosts and so many different directions.

Nobody has said anything other than he was shy and in love with Hannah Road.

Literally in love like something is off.

This is the Pite's at Massacre, returned to Pike County.

Season three, episode 10, House on a Hill.

I'm Courtney Armstrong, a television producer at KT Studios with Stephanie Leidegger and Jeff Shane.

In researching this story, we sometimes find ourselves mired in details that lead to dead ends.

In this episode before George Wagner IV's trial, we're stepping back to take an eagle eye view on the dark power dynamics at play in Southern Ohio.

We have uncovered some shocking new theories about what might have led to the grizzly murders of the eight members of the Roden family.

Here's Stephanie and Jeff.

After following the story for years, you really start to see that there are sort of two Pikedans.

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