House of (Tarot) Cards
Unholier Than Thou
Unholier Than Thou
4.7 • 903 Ratings
🗓️ 3 July 2020
⏱️ 29 minutes
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Summary
Protests in response to the murder of George Floyd at the end of May have sparked nationwide rallies that continue all across the country today. To understand how this moment became a movement, Phil talks with artist, filmmaker and activist Tourmaline. Tourmaline shares a tarot card reading with Phil, and they speak about the role spirituality plays in attempting to dismantle power structures.
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| 0:00.0 | From Crooked Media, this is unholyer than now. I'm your host Philip Picardy. |
| 0:09.0 | If you've been listening to the past few episodes, I sure hope you've gathered by now that I'm in search of spiritual meaning in my life. |
| 0:20.0 | Attending protests and rallies over the past few weeks, I realized there's something intrinsically |
| 0:24.8 | spiritual about gathering together in solidarity and rebellion. |
| 0:29.3 | We'll never be divided. |
| 0:31.3 | The people united will never be divided. The people united will never be divided. |
| 0:35.0 | Source point. |
| 0:38.0 | Soul searching, I've learned, is at the very heart of movement work. |
| 0:42.0 | How we show up is crucial, but we show up both physically |
| 0:45.6 | and mentally. So what could it mean to show up spiritually too? What does it mean to allow ourselves |
| 0:51.8 | to be connected to not just a moment in time, |
| 0:54.5 | but an entire movement? |
| 0:56.5 | To notice or observe just how spiritual it is |
| 0:59.3 | to hear stories of sorrow and triumph and demand righteous, earth-shattering change. To help me answer some of those questions, |
| 1:07.4 | I wanted to consult someone I am both honored and lucky to call a friend. The incredible Tormaline. |
| 1:14.0 | Tormaline is a black trans woman who's an artist and director best known for her film |
| 1:18.4 | Happy Birthday Marsha. Marsha P. Johnson was a legendary Stonewall activist in Tormoline's film helped bring her historic activism to the mainstream consciousness. |
| 1:27.0 | If I wanted to be a saint, I would sleep when it was dark. |
| 1:32.0 | I'd be loyal to the law and not the Queens in the park. |
| 1:37.0 | If I wanted to be a say, I just pray to the pigs. I'd say yes mr. officer instead of fuck you that's my wig. Just this week |
| 1:50.2 | tourmaline's film Salacia was officially acquired by the Museum of Modern Art as a part of their permanent |
| 1:56.0 | collection. But before Tormaline was an artist, she was an activist in an early adopter of both prison |
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