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you're bored. So listen, busy, busy, busy day, which is you just heard Jeremy Otto's

update where Chris Spielman is getting overtures. The team has a window here where Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn are going to be interviewing.

And the Raiders today have asked permission interview both.

Ben Johnson right now that we know has three interviews the next couple of days.

Thursday and Friday, I believe.

It's Patriots, Jags, Bears.

Patriots is absolutely on Friday. That's been like cemented. Aaron Glenn, the news is this. Everyone's

trying to interview Aaron Glenn. All six job openings have Aaron Glenn on the list. And although, yes,

RICO and I chide the Rooney rule because Aaron Glenn should be interviewed based on the content of who he is and his resume.

The problem is it's not accidental that all six teams are asking for the interview because let's face it.

You've got some teams out there trying to interview Pep Hamilton.

This is the problem with the Rooney Rule is that you don't know what's real and not, but here's what is real.

Interest in Aaron Glenn, that is seemingly legitimate where New York media and some of the New York

papers have said Aaron Glenn is going to be the next coach of the Jets.

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