And joining us right now, a guy does a great job, covers the Jets, the NFL for the athletic.

Zach Rosenblatt is nice enough to come on, talk to us on this beautiful Friday afternoon. Thank you very much for coming on, Zach. How are you doing? I'm doing good. How are you guys? Fantastic. Now, would you like to refute John Gruden? Because this guy comes out since I was never offered anything. obviously you had to report the other day.

The Jets reached out to him.

Is this John playing word games right now, you think? Yeah. I mean, look, like, I feel very good about what I reported. Otherwise, I wouldn't have reported it. Like, I wouldn't have reported if I had any doubt in my mind that it was true is what I would say. I think the impression I'm getting and maybe John would be able to speak to this better than me, but I get the impression that he thinks I reported that the Jets offered him a job and he said no. I reported that they gave him a phone call and he said, I'm not interested and that's the different thing. So I don't know if there's been a misinterpretation on what I reported, but you know know, he, for every reason, he just felt a need to deny it on that radio show.

And that's fine. He has the right to do that. But I stand by what I reported, and I have no doubt in my mind that a phone call took place. We had a caller call who is that he described himself as a plaintiff's attorney. And he said because of the lawsuit that he has against the league and really the release of the emails and it damages his ability to have a career in the NFL, because of that,

he really can't officially accept the job. But the question is, or at least talk about having

people desire him to have a job, do you really believe that John Gruden will ever get back

into coaching in this league? I get the feeling he wants to be a head coach or nothing, and I feel like you'd have to have a owner who is really willing to like take it on the chin in terms of like the public PR perception and all that stuff and like take it on the chin from other owners who probably wouldn't be very happy with that. I mean, I can't see it, but I mean, the fact that teams and maybe that I don't know if other teams have reached out to him over the years about a role like this, the Jets were not asking to be their head coach. And so, you know, yeah, but I also think, you know, if Gruden does want to get back in the NFL, it probably doesn't benefit him to, like, embarrass a team.

And, you know, this story came out and everybody's making fun of the Jets. And so, you know, I think maybe there's something there with that as well. So to me as a Jet fan, my reaction was who offered it to him? Like, did it come from Aaron Glenn, which I think would show an incredible amount of self-confidence to say, yeah, I'm going to bring in a guy who within five minutes everyone would be calling for it to replace him, or did it come from ownership?

Do you have any indication on where, not even specifically where the phone call came from, but where the idea came from?

Was it a coaching thing or an ownership thing or maybe even somewhere in between? I should say not offer. I just want to make that clear again. My apologies. The interest, the gauging of interest. My engaging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, I don't know. You know, I think somebody talked to John Gruden, I'm pretty sure of Taring-Gland. I'm not 100% on that. It's also possible Woody had the idea. I don't know. I wasn't in the room and those conversations happened. I just know that a phone call between the New York Jets and John Gruden took place. What is their plan? Because right now as a jet fan, I think that's our biggest concern. It feels like they don't know what the hell they're doing.

So what's your sense for what their plan is right now in terms of rebuilding this offensive coaching staff?

Yeah, I mean, it's these last couple weeks, and I know you had, I think you guys had Connor on the other day talking about all this.

Like, it's been pretty messy.

It seems like the plan has changed over the last week or two.

And I would say that I still get the sense that Frank Reich will ultimately be their

offensive coordinator and it hasn't happened yet.

And so until it does, you can't assume anything.

But I do think he was a guy that they had at the top of their list.

He's a guy Aaron Glenn played with way back in the day, and he feels like he can give him the keys to the office, make him the head coach to the offense, so Aaron Glenn can call plays on defense and focus on that side of the ball, and that's the sense I guess. Frank Wright comes in, he probably brings in some of his own people, I imagine, in terms of position coaches, and then you roll with a coach who is 65 and from everything I've heard was considering retirement.

So, yeah. people. I imagine in terms of position coaches. And then you roll with a coach who is 65 and from

everything I've heard was considering retirement. So I take with that way you will. Yeah, exactly.

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