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Third and go on McCaffrey.

Touchdown. Another one.

Second to the Aalek for McCaffrey. As much as you want to blame, Brian David. Is Joe Shane done a good job? Oh, we didn't get the results. Stuff we work on each week, but it's not getting done. They don't have a lot of really good football players. I mean, I'm so sick of the incessant losing and the lack of accountability for management, and the coaching self is maddening.

The Giants are 5 and 21 now, their last 26 days. Look, nothing was good enough. Guys battled, ultimately not good enough. Is this the right guy to take this kid to where we need to get in from the team around it? Because right now doesn't feel like that. No. This is D.P.A. Tro and Rothenberg. It's bad, man. It's really bad. On ESPN, New York. And streaming live on YouTube. All right, here we are. The 9 o'clock hour. We've talked a lot of giants today, and rightfully so. And we've talked a lot of negativity with Giants today, and rightfully so. They're 2 and 7. It's another lost season. This is who they are. Now, I was talking to somebody texting with somebody earlier and said that they saw Mr. Marrett the game yesterday, and he did not look great. And in fact, he left at halftime, and physically he just doesn't, he's not in a great

spot. You wonder if that's going to throw a monkey wrench into this whole thing. But I just,

I don't think it can. You can't allow his health to make, make, not make moves that ordinarily

you would need to make. Well, I think, I mean, here's what I'll say is his health, which is, I mean, is much

bigger than football, I think would also maybe incentivize him to think about, yeah, it's time

for a change.

Like, how much more time can we waste?

Right?

Like, I mean, it's this, again, I believe in continuity.

And I think it's in a perfect world having your, you know, your rookie quarterback, you know, tied to a coach that he really likes and the coach really likes him and they can continue to grow the relationship and, you know, and work off the system that's already in place would be in the best interest of the quarterback. but if the guy's not a good coach and the rest of your team is suffering and you're not winning

and you're two and seven again for the third straight year, your season's over again before we even get to Thanksgiving, and now your building is being overrun by not Eagles fans, not Cowboys fans, not Steelers fans, Niners fans. Right. Like that's a problem. well and it's a good fan base. They have a tremendous history and tradition. But when you talk about embarrassing?

Yeah. I mean, you have a home game. You only have eight or nine of these a year. And now you're overrun by the opposition's fan base. I mean, what more could you want if you're a Giants fan that would signify changes need to be made with this organization?

Well, I mean, you'll get more losses. I mean, if that's what you want, you're going to get more losses. That's going to happen. I mean, you're talking about a San Francisco 49th team. Now, I know, I mean, from coach to some of their best players, right? like, I mean, Chris McAfre, he's a stud against a good Houston Texan defense.

They ran the ball combined 10 times. some of their best players, right? Like, I mean, Christian McCaffrey's a stud. Against a good Houston-Texas defense, a really good,

they ran the ball combined ten times.

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