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Hello and welcome.

It's our number four, hour number four of our radio program.

And this hour, a football hour now. Our number four of our radio program.

And this hour, a football hour.

Now, people accuse me of talking too much about the Patriots, but they continue to make NFL news.

Bill Belichick has done it again.

The Patriots had a defensive player of the year from a couple years ago, Stefan Gilmore.

They were going to release him.

They end up trading him for a song and a dance to be named later to the Carolina Panthers.

We grade the trade as Stefan Gilmore heading to the Carolinas. We'll get to that and much more, including Benny versus the Penny, picking that Thursday night NFL game.

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