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and Rothenberg. Harry Glenn's going to be here. This is his team. It's clear. He runs the franchise right now. I don't know how great I feel about that. Once we're able to continue to get our offense going, our defense going, and whence we get that mental toughness, we'll be a tough team to be. Offense and our defense and our mental toughness. We're going to be a real problem for teams.

Real problem.

Watch out NFL.

That's a great example.

Here comes to jazz. and our defense and our mental toughness. We're going to be a real problem for teams. Real problem.

Watch out NFL.

That's a great example.

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You think to yourself, why would Raymond be playing goodbye to you?

Jazz hands, everybody.

Big news, jazz hands.

Is this jazz hands?

What did you say?

Is this jazz hands?

Big news, jazz hands.

Yeah, they're shaking.

Yeah, that's jazz hands. Okay. That's right. The Giants have fired per Adam Schaefter, defensive coordinator, Shane Bowen. Goodbye to you, sir. It's about time. What were they waiting for? That's a great question. I don't know what Brian Davis was was waiting for. I don't know what Kafka was waiting for.

But again, I said this to you last week or whenever it was when Kafka took over. I just don't know how, like how you expect it to aid change because Kafka is not a defensive guy. He's an offensive guy. And his focus is going to be on the offensive side of the ball. I mean, I guess also, you know, setting the tone for, you know, the week and practice and expectations and everything else.

But if Shane Bowen's still going to be the defensive coordinator,

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