All right, five o'clock.

Good to have everybody with us.

Odyssey.com, rewind. You missed anything. We did a lot of talk about Pat Fitzgerald, gave some of the audio. Happy to take those phone calls. Look, I think, Rico, would it be fair if I described you and I as open-minded to this? Very open-minded. We are not, certainly not, yelling to the rafters that we've just landed football. Jesus. And I'm not going to say this is the worst hire ever.

I can't do that. certainly not yelling to the rafters that we've just landed football Jesus. And I'm going to say this is the worst hire ever. You should have got so-and-so. He would have been so much better, which I always laugh at. But also, look, it comes down to what NIL support is he going to get? Show me the staff. If we're sitting here in a week and Phil Parker has been stolen from Iowa to come back home to MSU, maybe they had Max Bowler as the linebacker coach in D.C. in waiting. You show me a high-powered, you know, $2.5.3 million offensive coordinator, hey, then we can start to believe. I know for you, it's all about the, it's not the X's and the O's. It's the Jimmy and the Joe's. And if you tell me that, hey, you convince Jason Candle to quit being the head coach of Toledo and he's your OC now.

Okay. See, that I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't. Because ultimately, how could you tolerate living in Toledo that long?

I really don't think that's possible. But also, if you're Jason Candle, what's it gotten you? Nothing. That's all right. Make more money being the O.C. at state. I wouldn't mind it. Right. That's all like, yeah, you pay them enough money. Just don't give me any of that Dequan Finn nonsense. You can keep that. Kwan. which also means terrible in Portuguese.

Hey, he's not good,

Rico. Sorry. But he's in the portal again.

Spartan. Dual threat.

No.

Yeah, the dual threat is fumble or

pick.

Watch your mouth. All right. The other news of the day, and you can call in about the Fitzgerald thing.

We're happy to do it.

We talk lions.

And look, I gave you a something or nothing.

And I want to just consult my notes real quick.

You tell me, first of all, something or nothing.

I'm glad Rieger's here for this.

I see him behind the glass.

I see the lights bouncing off his bald head.

But pre-October 29th, Aidan Hutchinson, six sacks, 50 pressures, 27% win rate.

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