All right, five o'clock, good to have you with us. If you're just joining, it's been all about

quarterbacks today. The debate about Goff is he at top 10 QB, ESPN's list, voted on by coaches

and executives and scouts. He came in at number eight. We've had people as low as 15. We had a

caller last hour, caller Lou, I believe.

Had him at five.

Where does Goff fall in this?

And our criteria for the list bit different.

One, what's greater?

The quarterback's abilities or the supporting cast around him.

I think that should matter.

Two, can you win a Super Bowl with this player? Only you can answer the question.

And three, what we called BPA, big playability. What do you do when all hell breaks loose?

And you have to break the defense. The coverage is perfect.

Pass protection is not perfect. And you still are able to kill a defense. You see the Mahomes of the world do it, the Josh Allen's. I think the guys

who have it are for sure top 10 guys and the guys who don't. It's the question. Goff is in that

question. Now, if you have Goff at 11, it doesn't mean you think he's bad.

Not at all. He's a very good player, clearly. But it's fun to have this discussion. So, 248, 5, 3, 997, and the players we have that are no doubters, Mahom, Alan, Lamar, Borough, Hertz, Daniel, Stafford, Herbert.

And then the last four is where things have gotten muddy.

Gough, Baker, Love, Stroud.

Two quarterbacks, excuse me, four quarterbacks for two spots.

And that's where the debate lies.

For Goff, if you're just going to cite stats, that's probably a different conversation than we're having, which is, okay, no Ben Johnson, offensive line downgraded.

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