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Winters of 4 in a row, 6 out 8, there's still a million miles out of everything, but it was a stat.

There was one stat and it's really it's shocking and it just shows you if they had an offense how good they could be and we wanted to know if this stats settled the debate.

Odyssey.com rewind you can go get that if that's what you want to hear.

David I had a question for you.

I was looking at this and I know we did a little college football last hour so we'll keep this

brief. Have you seen the win totals for Michigan to Michigan State? I have. Okay. Am I

crazy or do both of those seem quite low?

Michigan is at 8.5.

Michigan State is at 4.

Excuse me for a moment.

Yeah.

If MSU goes 4 and 8, I mean honestly, just burn the stadium down.

Like you could correct me from wrong.

I think Michigan has gone down.

I thought it was at 9.5 when it first came out. So it's

fallen a full game here and yes while it seems low, somebody's saying

something here. Yeah for for MSU, I think bringing in 43 different new players.

You just don't know.

You have no idea what they're going to do.

So that's the safest route to go.

For Michigan, you don't have a quarterback.

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