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The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

Hour 3 - Why People Don't Trust Gov't

The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Politics, News, Society & Culture, News Commentary, Daily News

4.511.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show is heavily focused on COVID accountability, national security, foreign policy, and breaking developments involving Iran, with extended interviews and real-time reaction to unfolding events. The hour opens with a high-impact conversation with journalist and COVID-era whistleblower Alex Berenson, who breaks down the recent indictment of David Morens, a former senior adviser to Dr. Anthony Fauci. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton walk listeners through allegations that Morens deliberately concealed and destroyed federal records to evade public disclosure related to U.S.-funded virus research tied to China, including work connected to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Berenson explains how the indictment stems from House investigations and why it represents the most serious legal reckoning yet tied to the origins of COVID-19.

Throughout this portion of Hour 3, the discussion centers on whether the case could eventually implicate Dr. Fauci himself. Berenson outlines why Fauci is not named as a co-conspirator and why a presidential pardon likely shields him from prosecution, while still arguing that the historical record matters even if legal consequences are limited. Clay and Buck emphasize that a failure to fully confront COVID-era deception has fueled widespread distrust in government, media, and institutions, and they argue that the lab-leak cover-up and aggressive suppression of dissenting views fundamentally reshaped American politics.

The conversation then pivots to the long-term legacy of COVID, with Berenson warning that without transparency and accountability, future historians may view this period as the moment when public trust permanently fractured. He predicts Morens faces serious legal jeopardy, while expressing skepticism that key figures will ever “flip” or cooperate against higher-ranking officials. The interview is framed as one of the most consequential discussions yet on pandemic truth, government overreach, and scientific accountability.

The second major pillar of Hour 3 of the program is foreign policy and military strategy involving Iran. Clay and Buck react to live remarks from President Donald Trump in the Oval Office, where he describes the U.S. economic and naval blockade of Iran as “genius” and “foolproof.” The hosts analyze Trump’s strategy of sustained economic pressure, arguing that Iran’s inability to export oil is crippling its economy without triggering the global energy shock many had feared. They discuss Iran’s limited storage capacity, the collapse of its naval and air capabilities, and why the Trump administration believes time is now working against Tehran.

Hour 3 also features an in-depth interview with TN Senator Marsha Blackburn, who weighs in on multiple fronts. She discusses the Supreme Court’s recent Voting Rights Act ruling and its implications for redistricting in Tennessee, including the possibility of eliminating the Memphis-based majority-minority congressional district. Blackburn argues the decision restores the original intent of the Voting Rights Act and predicts Republican-led legislatures will revisit maps nationwide. She also addresses the ongoing Department of Homeland Security shutdown, blaming Democrats for defunding enforcement agencies and outlining plans to fund DHS through reconciliation to ensure pay for ICE, TSA, the Coast Guard, and Border Patrol.

On immigration and border enforcement, Blackburn highlights her 287(g) Enhancement Act, which would incentivize state and local law enforcement to cooperate with federal immigration authorities. She frames the effort as essential to dismantling sanctuary policies and restoring public safety, particularly as illegal immigration remains a central issue heading into future elections.

The hour closes with additional breaking updates, including newly released DOJ photos of the alleged White House Correspondents’ Dinner attacker, further evidence suggesting friendly fire may have injured a Secret Service agent, and continued concern over repeated security failures surrounding President Trump. Clay and Buck warn listeners not to move on too quickly from the assassination attempt, arguing that the Secret Service’s performance in multiple incidents raises serious questions about presidential protection.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Third hour of Clay Ann Buck starts right now. We're joined by our friend Alex Berenson. You all remember him. Pandemic truth teller guy. He's got a substack, unreported truth. Highly recommend you check that out. He joins us now. Mr. Berenson, great to have you. And I didn't see this one coming.

0:22.8

Maybe you did.

0:24.0

But let's just dive into it.

0:25.4

Former Fauci aide David Morins has been charged in an indictment this week because of allegedly, deliberately concealing emails.

0:38.3

He exchanged with the president of a virus-hunting nonprofit group

0:42.9

whose work with Chinese scientists had drawn scrutiny from the public.

0:47.1

He was charged with conspiracy against the United States,

0:50.4

destruction and concealment of records in a federal investigation.

0:53.8

Whoa.

0:54.3

What's going on here, Alex?

0:56.5

Well, so what's going on is this actually comes out of a 2024 investigation by the House,

1:03.4

a House subcommittee that was looking into the coronavirus.

1:07.4

And David Morins, who worked very, very closely with and for Tony Fauci, was closely linked to a guy named Peter Dasak.

1:19.2

Peter Dasak is a British zoologist.

1:21.2

He ran something called the Eco Health Alliance.

1:24.5

And Eco Health Alliance was essentially a funding conduit for the NIH and Tony Fauci to fund

1:30.6

research in Wuhan that a lot of people think and that I think ultimately led to the coronavirus,

1:38.4

led to SARS-CoV-2. And very, very quickly in 2020, as we all remember, there was an effort to smear anybody who suggested, you know, the weird coincidence that coronavirus had come from the same town where the world's foremost coronavirus research laboratory was as a conspiracy theorist.

2:00.0

What we didn't know at the time was how closely

2:02.9

the Tony Fauci and the federal government were involved with this lab. And that, they really went

2:11.0

out of their way to conceal. And when the questions started coming in, David Morin's, it's very

2:16.3

clear, didn't want to leave any records that could

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