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Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

Third hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

We've got our friend Vivek Ramoswami with us now.

He is running for president of the United States.

He's in the Republican primary right now.

Vivek always appreciate you making the time for us.

Good to be on, man. How are you?

Pretty good, pretty good. I wanted to get your take first off.

I mean, we're on the cusp here of a debate that you won't be a part of.

One of your competitors ron desantis governor

florida will be tomorrow this gavin newsome ron dsantis throw down the blue state red state

uh thunder dome if you will or or you know the the big the big battle underway what do you

make of what we're seeing here how do you think it's going to go?

I don't really care one way or another. I think it's a random charade between, you know, I think

it's interesting how Ron DeSantis wasn't running for president for a year and a half while being a

governor in much the same way that Gavin Newsom is also now not running for president. That's absolutely what Gavin Newsom is doing. So I think it's a nice little

win for Gavin Newsom to be able to pre-bolster what will almost surely be the seat that he takes as

the Democratic nominee after they get their puppet Joe Biden out of the way. I do think that we're

missing the point if we think that Joe Biden is of the way. I do think that we're missing the point if we think that

Joe Biden is really the nominee. The Republicans who have trained their fire on Joe Biden are

missing the point that he's not really in any meaningful sense the president or the nominee. He is a

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