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Welcome back. There was about a 15-year period that I thought outside of Ohio State, Big Ten schools just didn't have the depth of talent that the LSUs and the Alabama's had.

Ohio State was sort of, I used to call them, the SEC up north.

They had the money, the facilities, the coaching.

But Michigan won a Natty, Buckeyes won a natty. The two best players

in the country next year are a receiver in a corner, Caleb Downs, Jeremiah Smith, are Buckeyes.

And I think Penn State has the best backfield in the country. And I think I have the Nittany Lions

winning a natty. Although I think it's hard to, you know, the journey through the Big Ten now is

tough because

Washington and USC are going to be better.

Urban Meyer is now joining us.

Urban for years and years you knew and I knew and the world knew the SEC was better.

And I don't know who's better in the middle or the tail end, but I think if you took the top

four teams today in the Big Ten,

which would be Ohio State, Penn State, Oregon, and then we can argue over four, I think they

are today as good. My lean is slightly better than the SEC. Where are you at having coached in both

conferences today?

The transition of the Big Ten has been phenomenal on our, the triple option. We had James Franklin.

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