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DiPietro & Rothenberg

Hour 3: Mel Kiper Jr. would not fire Brian Daboll

DiPietro & Rothenberg

ESPN

Sports

4.6626 Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Does Brian Daboll deserve another year after this one? Mel Kiper Jr. believes so, but Dave & Rick strongly disagree. Also, an edition of Cuddle, Marry, Trash! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the D. Pietro and Rothenburg podcast.

0:03.7

Let the wild rumpus begin.

0:05.9

Listen live weekday mornings from 6 to 10 a.m. on 880 ESPN in New York, the ESPN New York app, and on YouTube by subscribing to the ESPN New York YouTube channel.

0:18.5

We bring in, and these are the Iron Men that bring them in, the great Mel Kuyper Jr. Good morning, Mel. How are you? Good morning, guys. How you been? Well, we're here again. We're here again. Mel, I'll tell you what, we're unruinable. Did you ever figure out if I was right on that? Was that actually a word? It doesn't matter. I don't think it's a word, but you know what? I think we make it a word. I think we just keep using it until it becomes a word.

0:41.0

I always say, what did the great Chuck Ewing say back in the late 70s, so Bobby Ewing? He said, hey, I can't give you power. You've got to take power. So you don't get given power. You take it. So we're taking it. We're just making up words and whatever heckle we want. And we've got mock draft coming out now. We're doing a rotating mock field and I are this week. So we've got the Jets and Giants already making picks for late April. Oh, all right. So let's go. Let's jump onto it. Who are you leaning towards for the Giants right now? Well, we rotated through. The Giants, I think when you really look at where we are right now in terms of where they're going to be picking, which is very high, it's going to land them guaranteed guys, a big-time wide receiver. And if you look at the board right now and you say, okay, where are these guys rated in terms of the rest of the group, you have a wide receiver at 7, a wide receiver at 9, or wide receiver at 11. Now that wide receiver at 11 now is up at 6 on the new board. So now you've got a 6 guy, or a 5th guy available, so you take that wide receiver because the quarterbacks are forced up. You have Jackson Darts. So you don't even worry about those guys. That's why the receivers are pushed down a little bit. There's three quarterbacks up there, Dante Moore, obviously Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson, right? So those receivers are going to be right there for the Giants, whichever one they feel can be the difference maker when neighbors coming back from the injury for Jackson Dart, whether it's Carnell Tate from Ohio State, who is red-hot right now, coming off another great performance. He's been a down-the-field vertical threat all year. Ohio State's wide receiver, you see Marvin Harrison coming on last night with Jacoby Brissette doing things he didn't do with Tyler Murray. He's doing with Brissette. So Marvin Harrison, Jr., coming on at Laundry List of Names that go way back into the 80s for Ohio statewide receiver. So Carnell-Tate, Jordan Tyson, Arizona State, all banged up right now, but he's an outstanding player with Sam Levitt, who's out for the year, unfortunately, at Arizona State. They had the big year last year. He missed the final two games Tyson did, and then this year, a little banged up,

2:34.6

but he's got an enormous talent. And the third guy is Mackay Lemon from USC, more of a slot guy,

2:39.6

but I think the bigger receiver, they want somebody who can go down there and let Jackson Dart,

2:43.5

hey, hit him down the field, compliment neighbors. Carnel Tate from Ohio State may be the

2:49.4

guy. So I would say Carnell Tate for the Giants right now. And Tyson, Jordan Tyson, would be two of the receivers that kind of fit the mole physically of what the Giants may be looking for. All right, Mel, I'm all going to ask. I think I know the answer, but Jets, quarterback? Yeah, I think you just say which one, and the thing that complicates this guys,

3:07.8

and I have been making this point for the last month and a half is Ty Simpson, you know, you had Joe Namath and Richard Todd, right? So you've gone to Alabama before for quarterbacks. Here's Ty Simpson, but Ty Simpson has one year. He's not finished this year. So he's just in his first year as a starter. So is that going to be enough for Ty Simpson, his father is the head coach at UT Martin.

3:27.0

He's going to be obviously talking

3:28.1

Nick Saban about this because they've been closed all through, about which should I do?

3:32.1

There's another year necessary for me to not only enhance my ability to go into the NFL

3:37.9

and be playing at a high level right away, which is a necessity.

3:44.4

And Alabama is going to have great players around that quarterback every year.

3:45.0

We know that.

3:49.2

They have the ability to do that, both from a recruiting standpoint and the transfer portal.

3:52.3

So that's the decision to Ty Simpson has to make.

3:53.9

And the same thing for Dante Moore.

3:56.1

It's a big game for him this week against Iowa.

3:58.7

Parker's defense is tough to navigate.

4:03.8

We saw that when Mendoza played for Indiana this year against Iowa. He didn't have a great performance.

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