Hour 3 - FBI-DOJ Mushroom Cloud
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
iHeartPodcasts
4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
In the final hour of the week, the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show covered significant breaking news regarding turmoil within the Trump administration over the Epstein files investigation. The hosts reported that FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino was threatening to resign amid a major dispute with Attorney General Pam Bondi over the handling of information related to the Epstein case. According to multiple sources, including CNN's Caitlyn Collins, Bongino reportedly told people he was considering resigning, with the ultimatum being "either her or me," forcing President Trump to potentially choose between his FBI Deputy Director and Attorney General.
The hosts welcomed former FBI special agent Nicole Parker to discuss the Epstein investigation, particularly focusing on the original South Florida investigation that resulted in Epstein's controversial plea deal back in 2008. They examined the timeline of events, noting that the initial investigation began in 2005 under President George W. Bush, with Epstein eventually receiving what many considered an extremely lenient 13-month work release sentence despite serious charges.
Clay and Buck analyzed how this controversy has become a "five-alarm fire" for the Trump administration, with CNN reporting that Google searches for Epstein were up 1200% during the week. They suggested that the issue wasn't necessarily disagreement about the evidence in the files, but rather the communication surrounding them, with both hosts speculating that officials likely found little prosecutable evidence beyond what was already known about Epstein himself.
The hosts also mentioned President Trump's visit to flood-ravaged areas in Kerrville, Texas. On a positive note, they closed the show by sharing news of the U.S. government reporting a $26 billion budget surplus in June 2025, which they highlighted as the first monthly budget surplus in 20 years. Despite the week's controversies, they encouraged listeners to focus on economic progress and other positive developments as the weekend approached.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:04.4 | Welcome in final hour of the week. |
| 0:07.8 | Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. |
| 0:10.0 | Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. |
| 0:12.7 | We're about to be joined by Nicole Parker, |
| 0:15.4 | former FBI Special Agent Fox News contributor, |
| 0:19.2 | but want to fill you in with a little bit of news |
| 0:21.7 | kind of significant if you have been out and have not heard this yet first of all |
| 0:27.0 | Trump is on the ground in Texas touring the flood ravaged areas around curville |
| 0:33.9 | we will update you on anything that comes from that visit if it happens in this hour. |
| 0:40.7 | Just FYI, that is where the president is right now. |
| 0:43.7 | Breaking news, while the president has been traveling to Texas, there were Axios initially |
| 0:50.6 | reported on a blowup inside of the White House between FBI officials, Dan |
| 0:59.5 | Bongino, the deputy director in particular, and the Attorney General Pam Bondi, over the way |
| 1:06.0 | that information has been released surrounding the Epstein investigation. There is a belief on the FBI side that the AG's office, Pam Bondi in particular, has overpromised and underdelivered and not been great in terms of her communication on this case. |
| 1:24.4 | And there are now reports, according to our friend Julie Kelly, who I believe is accurate. I trust her reporting on this case. And there are now reports, according to our friend Julie Kelly, who I believe is |
| 1:29.0 | accurate. I trust her reporting on this that Dan Bongino may have said it's either her or me. |
| 1:37.6 | That is the deputy director of the FBI, maybe also Cash Patel. We don't know exactly how |
| 1:42.1 | his position is impacted here. |
| 1:44.8 | And Pam Bondi, that Trump needs to make a choice. |
| 1:48.2 | It's either she stays as AG or Bongino stays in the FBI. |
| 1:53.3 | Okay, that is where we are. |
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