Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show podcast.

Third hour Clay Ann Buck kicks off now and we are joined by Dr. Marty McCary. He is at Johns Hopkins

University Medical Center. He's also the author of The Price We Pay and Dr. McCary,

great to have you on as always. Thanks for being here with us. I want to start with this one.

Are there really, and I think I know what the answer is, but there's a part of me that's hoping

that I'm not going to get the answer you're going to give here. We've seen some talk of masks coming

back from the White House, no less, and even from a school, Clay brought that up yesterday.

I'm seeing masks, especially in airports these days. For some reason, COVID only lives at airports

and some people's minds. When you have some of your medical colleagues, when you have a moment

with them, do any of them really look in the eye and say, mask mandates are going to stop COVID,

like they actually believe this still? I mean that honestly. Are there still true believers

that you come across in medicine when it comes to fouchism? Yeah, they do believe it, and I think

it's because they don't actually read the studies. They, instead, they just follow the group think

in the dogma and the consensus, because the consensus is coming from the powerful elites in

the medical field. These are highly partisan leaders of the professional associations. They are

very intertwined with the CDC and NIH Fauci types. Look, I want to believe the masks work, too.

I really want it to work, but it just doesn't, right? That's the scientific process. I want to

believe in Goldilocks and the three bears. I want to believe in a lot of things, but when you have

evidence that does not exist and then strong research to the contrary, the scientific process is

you listened to that evidence. Right now, we've got the study called the Cochrane Review,

which looked at 150 studies on masks. Cochrane has always been the accepted authority in medicine

forever. Anytime they do their comprehensive reviews, everyone says this is now the Gold

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