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Welcome back in. At Glator Abyss Bucks X and Cho. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we roll

into the third hour here. And we are joined now by Dr. Bata Charia, who is at Stanford. And he is one

of the individuals named in what I think is perhaps the most consequential case to yet emerge

anywhere in the federal court system relating to COVID. That is the the Judge Doudy decision that

came down on July 4th. And we appreciate you coming on Dr. Bata Charia. You've been so right

about so much relating to COVID lockdowns, masking, everything. And you've been brave to speak out

as you have. What was your reaction when you saw that opinion come down on July 4th?

How consequential do you think it is and do you see it going forward having a substantial impact

in terms of the marketplace of ideas and free speech in this country? I was absolutely delighted.

I think during the pandemic I personally have experienced this censorship machine used by the

federal government. And it's not just to like silence people. Really the purpose is to make people

think that even true facts that are inconveniencing the government or false so that people speaking

up against it will be seen as like you know long or spreading this information when in fact they're

not. And that's the way that the the federal government did that is they would go to social media

companies. This is something we discovered through this lawsuit and tell them these are the people

you need to censor. These are the ideas you need to deem misinformation. And I think that has

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