Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast.

Welcome back in everybody.

Third Hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now. We are joined by Dr. Carol

Swain. She's a senior fellow at the Institute for Faith and Culture, also the author of the book,

The Adversity of Diversity, which was released this past summer.

Dr. Swain, honor to have you on the program.

It's me, Jim, quite excited.

Thank you for all the good work you do.

Thank you so much.

Let's start with, well, why your name has certainly been in the news cycle for the last week or so.

The president of Harvard, still the president as we speak here, I don't think that's going to change anytime soon.

Dr. Gaye, there are allegations from a friend of the show Chris Rufo here and and others that she

plagiarized some of your work.

I wanted to ask you first about that.

I mean, what do you think of those allegations?

And what do you think of overall the fact that Dr. Gay seems to be held to a different standard than other

university presidents like University of Pennsylvania's who have already

resigned. Well she is a documented serial pleasureist that that cannot be denied and Harvard

University can't decide unilaterally that they're going to change the

definition of pleasureism

just to protect its first ever black president.

So that is certainly the case.

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