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We've been breaking down

all of the absolute latest news out there from across the nation. And we head now up to,

I believe where he is, Washington, D.C. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky joins us now. Senator, we got a lot

to dive into with you. you joining us let me just start

here right off the top how is the budget and border bill process going how does the timeline

look to you how would you assess it at this point i'm worried uh i'm very worried that they're

wanting to add five trillion trillion to the debt ceiling.

All the good news we've heard about Elon Musk, about cutting contracts and cutting for aid,

all that has been so energizing to our base to conservatives like me. We jump for joy. We cheer.

And then they say, well, but the bill's going

to increase the debt ceiling by $5 trillion. We say, well, how is that possible? We thought we

were cutting spending. Why would we increase it more than $2 trillion a year for the next two and a half

years? And there's not a good explanation. And so I've told them I won't vote for any bill that adds

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