Hour 3 - David Rutherford
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
iHeartPodcasts
4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 27 August 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
In Hour 3 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, the hosts deliver a hard-hitting and emotionally charged breakdown of the Minneapolis church shooting, where a transgender-identifying shooter opened fire at Annunciation Church, killing two children and critically injuring several others. Joined by David Rutherford, a former Navy SEAL, CIA contractor, and host of The David Rutherford Show, the segment explores the tactical, medical, and cultural dimensions of this horrific act of violence.
Rutherford offers expert analysis on mass shooting response, emphasizing the importance of armed security in schools and churches, which he calls “soft targets” for ideologically motivated attackers. Drawing from his experience as a combat medic, he details the catastrophic nature of gunshot wounds, the importance of rapid triage, and the life-or-death difference made by trained first responders. The conversation underscores the need for proactive security measures, including hiring veterans and law enforcement professionals to protect vulnerable institutions.
The hour also delves into the mental health crisis and the role of gender ideology in recent mass shootings. The hosts and Rutherford discuss the shooter’s background, including a transgender identity, early use of hormone blockers, and a disturbing manifesto that echoes themes of nihilism, self-hatred, and ideological extremism. They argue that society’s embrace of “toxic empathy” and the medicalization of gender dysphoria—especially in minors—is enabling mental illness rather than treating it.
Listeners weigh in with powerful emails and calls, raising questions about the medical establishment’s role, the insurance industry’s complicity, and the legal accountability of doctors performing gender-affirming surgeries on children. The hosts compare the current cultural climate to past global practices of genital mutilation, questioning why such procedures are condemned in some contexts but celebrated in others.
The segment closes with a broader call to action: to treat gender dysphoria as a mental health condition, not a political identity, and to prioritize truth, safety, and compassion over ideological conformity.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:04.1 | All right, third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off now. |
| 0:07.0 | We are continuing to follow very closely all the latest developments and the breaking news |
| 0:11.3 | that's coming out about the horrific shooting in Minneapolis at the Annunciation Church. |
| 0:20.4 | And we know now that it was a trans terrorist. |
| 0:23.5 | We know that two children were killed. |
| 0:26.3 | Four are in critical condition of the hospital. |
| 0:28.1 | Others wounded, but they will be okay. |
| 0:31.1 | We're joined now by our friend David Rutherford. |
| 0:34.2 | He's a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor, a combat veteran, and host of the David Rutherford show podcast, which is on the Clay and Buck Network and is growing every single month since we've had them on as I knew it would because more and more of you realize that's a show you should be listening to. Dave, Rut, as I call him, Rut, tell me, let's start with this. |
| 0:56.0 | You see this, we know it's heartbreaking. |
| 0:58.9 | From a security and tactical perspective, this guy comes in, it's a guy, this guy comes in, |
| 1:04.9 | he's firing off rifle a few minutes there. |
| 1:07.6 | Do you think that armed security presence at the church is the only thing? |
| 1:12.3 | I mean, how do you assess this in terms of the security aspects of this? |
| 1:18.4 | Well, Buck, thanks once. First of all, thank you to you and Clay for having me on. |
| 1:22.6 | My heart goes out to the families, to the people who work at the church and to the police officers, |
| 1:28.7 | everybody involved in this, people who work at the hospitals and the kids most especially. |
| 1:33.7 | This is absolutely preventable. |
| 1:37.5 | The problem is it requires a focused and concerted effort by organizations that are soft targets, like churches, |
| 1:48.4 | like schools. |
| 1:50.2 | And I think, you know, yes, if you were to have a armed security guard at the front gate, |
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