I'm Maria Konnikova. And I'm Nate Silver. And our new podcast, Risky Business, is a show about making better decisions. We're both journalists who moonlight as poker players. And that's the lens we're going to use to approach this entire show. We're going to be discussing everything from high-stakes poker to personal questions. Like whether I should call a plumber or fix my shower myself.

And of course, we'll be talking about the election too.

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Welcome back in hour number three.

We are taping this segment, just so you know, I wanted to make sure you could all hear from him

because the battleground state of Pennsylvania is so incredibly important.

And the guy that you need to make sure that you are the next senator from Pennsylvania is Dave McCormick.

I am going to hop a flight as soon as we are done with the radio show today.

Fly to State College, PA.

I'm going to be with this man tomorrow,

helping to rally voters.

And it's a fun place to be doing it, too,

with the Ohio State Penn State game going on.

He joins us now.

The next senator, we hope, from Pennsylvania.

If you guys get out and vote, Dave McCormick.

How is it going?

What are you seeing on the ground?

It seems like Pennsylvania, whoever wins Pennsylvania for the presidency is going to be the president

and may well be the case that whoever wins the Senate race is going to control the Senate.

Pennsylvanians have a lot in their hands.

What are you seeing out there, Dave?

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