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All right, big third hour of Clay and Buck starts now.

We have our friend Andy McCarthy in the mix with us.

He's of National Review and Fox News.

20 plus years.

He was a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York.

You all know him.

Andy, great to have you back on the show.

Hey, guys. How are you?

We're pretty good. Clay's got some baseball smack to talk, I'm sure, at some point.

But I wanted to jump right in.

I wasn't smacked enough yesterday. I needed it from Clay today.

So I need to know this, Andy.

What happens if Trump walks into this trial with Marchion and basically just dares him to actually put him in prison? Because right now he's finding him $1,000 a day, found him in contempt again. Where does this standoff between Donald Trump and some judge in New York City end up going?

Well, I don't really, I think there's going to be a lot of huffing and puffing,

but I don't think it gets worse than it is now,

because to me, this is all political theater at this point.

This whole case was brought because of politics.

And I think it would be disastrous electoral politics.

We might have just lost Andy there for a sec.

He's going to come back.

You heard him start to answer the question about how it would be disastrous electoral

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