Hour 2 - WI Sen. Ron Johnson Blasts the Spending Bill
The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show
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4.5 • 11.4K Ratings
🗓️ 19 May 2025
⏱️ 37 minutes
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Summary
Hour 2 of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show delivers a deep dive into the fiscal crisis facing the United States, featuring an in-depth interview with Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. The hour centers on the controversial “Big Beautiful Bill” currently under debate in Congress, which Johnson argues is a misnomer masking a failure to reduce federal spending and national debt. He criticizes the bill for embedding Biden-era budget increases, including COVID-era spending and Medicaid expansion, into the long-term federal budget—moves he says will balloon the national debt from $37 trillion to over $60 trillion in the next decade. Senator Johnson outlines the historical context of federal spending, comparing the current trajectory to post-World War II fiscal policy, and calls for a return to responsible budgeting. He advocates for a line-by-line budget review process to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse, and warns of the dangers of unchecked mandatory spending and the erosion of discretionary budget oversight. Johnson also highlights the risk of the U.S. dollar losing its status as the world’s reserve currency, citing rising interest payments on the debt and recent credit downgrades as red flags. The hour also features a compelling conversation with former NFL kicker and CBS analyst Jay Feely, who is now running for Congress in Arizona’s 5th District to replace Andy Biggs, who is running for governor. Feely discusses his support for President Trump, his stance on conservative values, and his opposition to transgender athletes competing in women’s sports. He shares personal stories from his NFL career, including being spoofed on Saturday Night Live and making a game-winning kick under pressure, drawing parallels between sports discipline and political leadership. Listeners are treated to a blend of fiscal policy analysis, political commentary, and cultural insight, making Hour 2 a must-listen for those interested in the intersection of government spending, conservative politics, and American values.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:04.9 | Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show podcast. |
| 0:10.2 | Welcome back in Clay Travis, Buck Sexton Show. |
| 0:13.6 | So many different moving stories over the weekend that we are chasing here with all of you on Monday. |
| 0:21.5 | The Biden health situation is such a huge story. |
| 0:25.6 | We talked about it the whole first hour at two. |
| 0:28.7 | So an hour from now, we're going to have part of the Clay and Buck podcast network, |
| 0:32.9 | also Fox News contributor, Dr. Nicole Sapphire, to analyze this from a doctor perspective, |
| 0:40.3 | what she thinks of Biden's health. |
| 0:42.4 | We bring in now, I was texting with him on Friday. |
| 0:45.6 | He was listening to Buck as I was trying to get to the airport, Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. |
| 0:51.5 | In addition to everything else going on, the biggest thing on Capitol Hill right now is the so-called big beautiful bill, which is trying to be passed at some point between now and Memorial Day is understanding. |
| 1:07.3 | You were hearing the discussion about the budget. |
| 1:10.6 | You've been really outspoken and i think |
| 1:14.0 | frankly right uh senator johnson with us now from wisconsin about the fact that we basically are |
| 1:20.0 | embedding the biden budget in this new one and the covid spending instead of being ratcheted back |
| 1:27.2 | down is now a part of the |
| 1:29.8 | American budget going forward. But I want you to lay that out because I think it's a very |
| 1:33.6 | cogent argument and it's one that this audience needs to hear. Well, first of all, thanks |
| 1:39.2 | for having me on. As I said, my Wall Street Journal column, too often the reality of these budget debates get obscured in minor details, politically charged issues and demagoguery, and that's what's going on right now. |
| 1:51.7 | Listen, I'm a big supporter of President Trump. |
| 1:53.8 | I could not be happy with how boldly, decisively, swiftly he's acting to honor the promises made. |
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