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This is the D.P.O. and Rothenburg podcast. Let the wild rumpets begin. Listen live

weekday mornings from 6 to 10 a.m.

On 880 ESPN in New York, the ESPN New York app, and on YouTube, by subscribing to the ESPN New York YouTube channel.

This is D.P.H. Owen Rothenberg.

That'll do it on the Knicks.

Unbefeated home record this season.

Instead of being a part of the fight,

we decided that it was going to be more advantageous

for us with the plate to the referees.

They kicked our ass. This is as simple as that.

They came out with a physical presence

that we didn't handle well.

They took you out of your game,

and the Knicks on the other side of it kind of played into exactly what Orlando wanted to do.

I just didn't think we did a great job doing what we're supposed to do to set the tone, especially at the beginning of the game.

This is DiPiatoro and Rothenberg on ESPN New York and streaming live on YouTube.

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