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All right, second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

And I don't think I have a lot of new stuff on the UFO.

It's a real story, okay?

The UFOs in New Jersey.

This is, there's grown footage that is capturing the interactions between these.

It doesn't seem like this is something that's going away anytime soon.

They said yesterday, what was it?

Kirby came out and said it doesn't appear to be a threat.

There's no reason to be worried about this.

And I understand that.

I appreciate where Kirby's coming from at some level.

But if you don't know what it is, how do you know?

You know what I mean?

If you're not sure what's going on with this, it strikes me that you can't really tell us anything about it at this point.

I mean, there are, let's see, 12 counties here are saying that, or have reported sightings.

Mystery drones in the air moving extremely close as if they're interacting with each other.

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