You're listening to Giraffe King's Network.

This is the Dunlambator Show with the StuGats Podcast.

All right, we'll kick off our two here with our friend Andrew Hawkins,

but in studio with us for a while now, we appreciate it.

Check about the Tom Hawke podcast.

How often you're doing that?

Every week.

Are you enjoying having Joe back in your life?

It's great having him back in my life, man.

It's the guy that I could count on.

And when we played for the Browns, he was the only good player we had.

And now it's the same when our podcast.

He's the only good player on that show.

Because chemistry is hard to like you have discovered.

It is, man.

I talked to Dan all the time about chemistry and sports.

He said it doesn't exist.

This is what we first started doing this show.

It's the first important thing in podcasting.

The first three years, we were dreadful.

We still are, but we were dreadful doing our radio show.

It took us three years to get our timing down.

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