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Does Cleveland really rock?

Because at the moment, it doesn't really feel like Cleveland rocks.

You know what you don't want?

We were just talking about this during the break.

What?

And, you know, I saw the whole clip, Ray saw the whole whole clip you react kind of like a piece of the clip is that whatever side of it

you're on if you want to if you want to say how upset you are and how ridiculous the

kenny hackinson looks about talking about the analytics and you know having won two of the

three games analytically or kind of understanding what his point was.

The last thing you want to be, though, is, like,

mocked on SportsCenter when you're down 3-0.

Like, say something after being down 3-0 that puts you on SportsCenter being mocked.

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