I found out that nobody consumes media

I found out that nobody consumes media the way that I was used to consuming media.

I'm like listening to David Spade, Dana, is it Dana Carvey?

Yeah, we're starting, by the way.

Go ahead.

I'm listening as David, David Spade, Dana Carvey podcast.

And like they don't have a good internet connection. And they have like Paul McCartney as their guest. Nobody can hear anybody. And it's the

most popular podcast in the country. And I'm going, all right, I'm concerned that my wife might fire

up the vacuum downstairs like 40 yards away.

So I had to kind of forget. No, but Hawk cares about this stuff. Taylor is laughing right now.

Hock used to care about this. Hock used to care about stuff like this deeply. And now you know why

Mike Ryan is so crazy. Because this is the stuff you taught Mike Ryan to care about all aspects of this.

Mark Hockman is with us.

This is very exciting.

I haven't seen him in, I think, 12 years.

Get out of here.

When's the last time we saw each other?

I thought we did the Suees last week.

My bad.

I forgot.

But Mike is crazy because you taught him to be crazy about this stuff. I was insane about sound and sound quality and ambient noise because that's the way that, you know, when you used to consume media, you had to go to a big studio like you have now. But nowadays, you can really create content from wherever and nobody seems to care if there's buses honking in the

back and you know people on the phone and and whatever so it took me a while to to get out of the

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