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Evan & Tiki

Hour 2: Gruden vs The Jets, Malik Willis Hype, and a Wild Giannis Deadline Web for the Knicks

Evan & Tiki

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Sports

4.2990 Ratings

🗓️ 30 January 2026

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Hour 2 opens with Jon Gruden finally addressing the rumor mill on Tampa sports radio, flatly saying there was “never anything” from the New York Jets. Evan and Tiki Barber dig into what that actually means, parsing the difference between an “offer” versus contact through agents, friends, or back channels, and why the wording can be technically true while still avoiding the full story. They also push back hard on fans dismissing credible reporting, defending Diana Russini and Zack Rosenblatt and explaining how information can be real while still being shaped by the motivations of whoever leaked it. The conversation turns into a bigger question: who benefits from the Gruden chatter being out there, and could it make Aaron Glenn look better or worse depending on what gets pinned on him versus Woody Johnson? Then the show takes a left turn into comedy when a caller, Ozzie from Woodridge, “bullies” both Evan and Shaun about their hair on YouTube, leading to on-air style changes, hat reveals, and plenty of roasting. On the phones, the Malik Willis conversation heats up with callers pitching him as a real Jets swing, plus trade ideas and fear that he ends up elsewhere. The hour closes by pivoting to the NBA trade deadline drama: how a potential Giannis Antetokounmpo move could ripple into a New York Knicks decision on Karl-Anthony Towns, why Oklahoma City Thunder and Golden State Warriors keep getting mentioned, and the ultimate high-risk debate: is Anthony Davis worth the gamble if you are chasing a title?

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0:00.0

curious if John Gruden will just answer the speculation.

0:04.8

Right. Whether it's with Barstool or somewhere else.

0:07.7

Yesterday, he was on Tampa Bay Sports Talk Radio and was asked directly, like, can you

0:13.7

address the rumors that the New York Jets pursued you for the offensive coordinating job?

0:19.1

Here was John Gruden's answer.

0:21.1

Well, there's a lot of reports we're not going to get into. As you know, there's a lot

0:24.8

of stupid rumors out there. Some of these reports are ridiculous. Let's just say that there was

0:30.8

never anything from the Jets, and I wish them well in their search for a new offensive coordinator.

0:36.6

What do you make of that, T?

0:40.1

I think it's nuance.

0:41.4

It's how you hear it.

0:42.8

There's never anything from the Jets.

0:45.1

I'm assuming he's saying there never was an offer from the Jets.

0:49.2

But I don't put it past the Jets from actually have reached out and had a conversation.

0:56.0

Hey, you know, what you doing?

0:58.2

How's life?

0:59.2

You like your podcast and your YouTube show and do you ever think about coaching again?

1:05.2

Especially an offensive coordinator role?

1:07.2

No, no, I'm good.

1:08.2

You know, I like my life now.

1:09.8

I'm fine.

1:10.5

I'm good. I love telling people about flip cards and everything else. So I think there probably was a conversation, but not a formal offer. Yeah. That's where the semantics games come in. Because I do think nowadays, and I know Jet jet fans do this and I am not on their side.

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