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Here we go. Hour two and a Thursday, Lions Packers tonight. Live in L.A., it's the herd.

Greg CoSell in five minutes, Jordan Schultz, an hour from now, the very latest on some breaking stories. Dion Dawkins of the Buffalo Bills. You know, Jay Mack, I was thinking about this. We talked about this last week, is that you don't want to become the NBA if you're the NFL. The NBA's got very top heavy, five or six really good championship level teams. That's it.

A very large middle that's pretty soft.

Lakers are in that, middle to bottom middle, and then just Drek in the bottom eight, nine teams.

For the first time that I can remember, and I could be wrong, I think the NFL, because they're so quarterback-centric, you have one of your done.

Right now, there's eight teams with three wins or fewer.

So the bottom of the NFL is as bad as I remember it.

And Dallas isn't even in that group, and we don't think they're any good.

So the middle is very,

and it may change, but it's very Arizona. It's the Rams. It's the Cowboys. It's the, and if the

Rams get hammered by Buffalo, they're definitely in that soft middle. So one of the great things

about the NFL, you've always had about eight teams that you think can win it then the middle to upper middle

is massive and a very tiny bottom it does feel like the bottom has expanded and my reasoning for

that is when you make the quarterback the be-all end all to your sport if you don't have one

you're toast so how do, how do you avoid making

the quarterback the be all end of? Well, the NFL after that CTE lawsuit where they wrote a billion

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