I'm Maria Konnikova. And I'm Nate Silver. And our new podcast, Risky Business, is a show about making better decisions. We're both journalists who moonlight as poker players. And that's the lens we're going to use to approach this entire show. We're going to be discussing everything from high-stakes poker to personal questions. Like whether I should call a plumber or fix my shower myself. And of course,

we'll be talking about the election too. Listen on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you listen to podcasts. Welcome back in second hour of Clay and Buck. We've got the governor

of Oklahoma with us now. Governor Kevin Stitt is with us.

Governor, appreciate you making the time for us.

Thanks for coming back on Clay and Buck.

Absolutely.

Great to be with you guys.

All right.

So we're talking a lot today about the very prominent and now the media will say controversial.

Trump planned to begin deportations on a much accelerated, much vaster scale than certainly what Biden was doing in the past.

And law enforcement priorities pushing this, meaning people who are criminal illegal aliens at the top of the list for

deportation. You've unveiled in your state Operation Guardian. Tell us about this program, how

work in Oklahoma as it unfolds, and also how you plan to have the state work with the federal

government, the Trump administration, to finally

restore some law and order when it comes to illegal immigration?

Yeah, absolutely.

Well, first off, I mean, it's just an optimistic mood in America.

I mean, you can feel it.

We're going back to law and order.

We're going to get, you know, inflation under control, energy, permitting reform, safety across the world.

I mean, it's just really exciting to have common sense back in the White House.

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