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This is the D.P.H.O. and Rothenberg podcast. Hello, Matty. Listen live weekday mornings

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All right. Seven o'clock hour. See you right there. You miss RJ. I'm not saying that I miss RJ, period.

Of course. I also recognize that Ray has a tremendous. I'm not blaming anybody. I think that they have enough on their plate anyway. But here's the thing with you is when you draw attention to it, it's not great. Ray, did you think I was being mean? I wasn't trying to be mean.

No, it is what it is.

I feel away about it. Not having it, not about what you said. Right. I just, I'm used to a glorious rejoin and it kind of sets the tone and now it sends you into the 7 o'clock hour and we don't have it. Listen, it wasn't going to happen this hour. We'll try to get it for nine. If we don't do it at 9, I get it.

I'm not judging.

It wasn't going to happen.

It's another thing to happen this hour. We'll try to get it for nine. If we don't do it at nine, I get it. I'm not judging.

It wasn't going to happen.

It's another thing to show the greatness of RJ. Right, but I know Ray feels away about it. So to bring it up, makes them feel worse about it. I'm sorry, right? Just like my week one schedule, at least, that went sideways. when you kept just beating the horse dead.

Oh, it was still dead.

Dead.

It's like enough.

I actually had

someone to reach out to me and they said rick is so mean to me all the time i think i got him back

now do you think we're even i think i think it was also nice when you're like i'm not on the show

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