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This is the Michael Kay Show podcast.

I got to get more K.

Listen live weekdays at one on the ESPN New York app and your smart

speaker. Welcome back to the show, everybody. We love 2 o'clock on Thursday. We get a chance

to talk to NBC's Chris Sims. Always a great guest with us and he joins us now. Hey, Chris, how you doing?

Hey, I'm good, Michael. How you doing, man? Doing very, very well. So many things to ask you.

The Giants got really kind of handed it to them against the Eagles. And I'm wondering,

is it just a market correction that the Eagles, A, are better than the Giants? Or was there

a spillover from that awful fourth quarter against Denver that they didn't recover from? You know, I can't say that I saw an awful spillover. I think one of the things I was impressed by, you know, and just to maybe just to know that I wasn't alone in this, like, you know, I sit in a viewing room at NBC on Sundays, Jason, Garrett, Devin McCordy. I think we all sat there and went, hey, the Giants are playing, right? They're hitting. They're playing physical. They got, you know, again, I'm not saying they would have won the game. They got screwed over more than any team in football this year by the referees. The refereeing in the NFL last weekend was horrible throughout. There are so many

calls. I can make an hour-long video and all the dumb calls in the NFL. The Giants game, of course,

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