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The pride, passion and pageantry of college football lives here.

This is the Paul Pinebaum Show, Our 2 podcast.

This might be college football.

Welcome back.

The football season is inching, and I mean inching closer,

and that means we talk to Bill Conley from ESPN about how he does his work.

How about this? The SEC preview, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU. Stop me if you've heard that before.

This conference is wide open. Let me assure you, Bill Conley does not write the headlines. He joins us now, and we're always excited to get with him. Bill, great to see you. I know you get blamed for a lot of

the things that fall under your name. So let's just talk a little bit about how this works in terms

of power ratings, projections, because some people will look at and go,

how can that be? So before we get to the details or the devil, I'm not really sure which it is,

how does it work? Well, I mean, so each year, I got my SP Plus ratings with all the, you know,

the opponent adjusted tempo, adjusted stuff that makes, you know, the game as

predictable as possible, I guess. But, you know, in the offseason here, I use recruiting rankings.

I use recent history. And most of all, I use last year's production, whether you, whether you got

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