The pride, passion and pageantry of college football lives here.

This is the Paul Pinebaum Show, Our Two Podcast.

This might be college football, heaven!

The second hour, the show is live and we cannot wait to dig in to the next step

of the 27.

But it's in too long since we've been on Harmon's

man 11 time Emmy winner, a six-time legal concept seller.

And this is the introductions to many a subject

that we've talked about here before.

The price with John Talty behind the scenes look at the chaos of

college football there it is the price what it takes to win in college football's

era of chaos and has there ever been a more

appropriate book. It digs heavily into Nick Saban's departure at Alabama, his

relationship, and it also has some revealing information about Jim Harbaw's end and

tenure at the University of Michigan.

Arman, first of all, good afternoon. Great to have you on.

Yeah, thanks for asking me, Paul.

It's good to talk to you again.

Even though the book still has another week or two or three weeks

before it's out, I've finally got my grubby hands on a copy today and I can't wait.

We'll talk a little bit more later on about some of the other things in the book, but I know you've been so close closely watching the University of Michigan over a

number of years but before we even dig into what you've learned just your

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