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are you on video? I'm not sure. Bucks in Nashville in one of our downtown studios.

I think I'm on video. I'm waving at you guys right now. If I'm not, we'll be back on video together on Monday. We're joined now by Andy McCarthy, who's met. Well, I finally beat the Phillies who can't lose at all. I'm saying that as a Braves fan because the Phillies have, I don't know, one like,

it feels like every game has been played so far this year.

Andy Kemp. I'm saying that as a brave fan because the Phillies have, I don't know, one like,

it feels like every game has been played so far this year.

Andy, question for you, how devastating was the Michael Cohen testimony, the Cross-X,

if we had a fully honest and paying attention jury and not people who had already made up their mind about Donald Trump.

Is there any doubt in your mind as a prosecutor that there was enough reasonable doubt shown that there should be some people open to a not guilty verdict if they have not already made up their minds.

How would you assess that testimony?

If we just look at it, Clay, as testimony in like a straightforward trial where everybody knew what had to be proved for the prosecution to get to the finish line,

I would say that it should have been game over in terms of, um, his testimony, because as I see the case as it should be understood legally, as opposed to how it's

been tried in the, in the court and, uh, the insufficient notice and the fairy tale kind of version of events that the jury is getting,

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