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The pride, passion, and pageantry of college football lives here.

This is the Paul Pinebaumom Show, Our Two Podcast.

This might be college football heavy.

We continue here.

Alan Kirsner returns to our program. We have spoken to him often in the past. He has written

and conversed recently on, Does your first staff matter?

A lot of attention on Koe and Abore, it's worth remembering,

as I'm sure Alex knows, that Nick Sabin ended up changing his offensive coordinator and his

defensive coordinator did pretty well in the aftermath. Alex, great to have you back.

It's been a while.

How are you and tell us all about your deep dive and the first year of staffs?

Yeah, Paul, great to be with you as always.

Pleasure to be here.

On Split Zone Duo, which is our College Football Podcast that I do with Richard Johnson,

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